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Welcome back to The Bitcoin Podcast! In this episode, Dee, and Jesse bring the laughs while diving into the wild world of crypto and beyond. We cover Monero’s so-called “51% attack,” the latest on privacy in crypto, Wyoming launching its own stablecoin, and even some spicy theories on Tether and government shorting. 🚀
It’s not your typical crypto show—we mix tech talk, market insights, and plenty of off-the-wall tangents (aliens, sex dungeons, and super-yachts, anyone?). At the heart of it all, we keep the energy light, the vibes jovial, and the crypto conversations real.
Stick around for laughs, insights, and a reminder that adoption is the only thing that matters. Whether you’re deep in DeFi or just here for the fun, you’ll feel right at home.
00:00 Intro & old school Bitcoin Podcast vibes 02:30 Monero “51% attack” & mining pool concerns 07:15 Tornado Cash trial & privacy under fire 12:00 Wyoming launches its first stablecoin 16:20 Tether vs USDC – conspiracy theories & regulation 22:00 Traditional finance & crypto adoption 28:15 Conspiracies, billionaires & crypto tangents 34:40 Financial advisors warming up to crypto portfolios 40:10 Aliens, Netflix shows & off-topic fun 45:00 Closing thoughts & wrap-up laughs
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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Bitcoin podcast. >> The quality has deteriorated significantly >> drastically. >> It’s going it’s going to keep going. In fact, we are about to converge right back to where the quality of our show was in the very beginning. Right. We’re giving you guys that old school vibe of the Bitcoin podcast. I’m the host of Talks First and my name is D. And then we’ll insert an audio sample of Corey saying I’m the host. I’m the second host or host number two. And then uh I’m Jesse, host number three. >> Jesse, how you been, man? How’s life? >> I’m I’m grinding, you know. I’m out I’m out here on the streets. I’m grinding for my life. >> Grinding for my life is >> Yeah, of course. >> You can’t be grinding that hard. You had time enough to shave. No, I didn’t. I haven’t shaved today. I haven’t shaved for the past three days. >> How I need to ask you some questions I’ve been needing to ask you for years now. >> All right. Shoot. >> When you work in that predator light, >> how is it affecting your brain long term, dude? You look It looks like you’re being actively hunted by one of the predators at all times on all video calls. >> Wait, don’t they do like night vision like or like heat vision? You know, some sort of like thermal mapping? It’s not blue. I feel like because you live in that light, they wouldn’t even see your warm blood. >> Wow. Do I have blue blood? Am I like the Avatar? Do they bleed blue? >> The avatars? >> Yeah. Or is it green? >> Bleed blue. I saw blue when they were getting beat up by humans, by the way. And you guys can hate me if you want, audience. I am prohuman in the Avatar series. >> I don’t care about those aliens at all. what’s going on on Earth that we need to take another planet’s resources to survive or thrive. I’m on team human. them up, bro. Machine guns, missiles, those trees. Like, I’m a human. I’m not an alien. I don’t give a damn about no blue aliens with the ponytails. Now, when I was younger, I did buy I did with that ponytail. I’m not going to lie. I wish I had one and my dog had one so we could like talk. But anyways, we’re getting a little off tangent. This is Bitcoin podcast where we talk about crypto some of the time. We hang out mostly all of the time. Um, so if we’re going to talk a little bit about crypto, what I’ve seen this week, and this is the year of our Lord, uh, what what what was this week? This is August. >> You said year, so 2025. >> This is the year of our Lord 2025. The day is, uh, you know, we’re recording this on Tuesday, August 19th. Um the the markets have taken a bit of a dip. It’s one of those moves in the market where you get on Twitter and everybody’s like, “People are selling stuff. It’s time to sell.” I mean, Bitcoin is highly correlated with traditional markets now, right? So, I would say that if Bitcoin and crypto are anything, they’re a wild card that the off chance every once in a while they might diverge from traditional markets and macroeconomic effects. But right now they’re just sliding into the humanity sauce. I don’t know. Like so so I guess in this week the interesting like there’s a few interesting things that happened. There was the cubic uh 51 51 in quotes air quotes 51% attack on Monero. That was interesting. >> That’s right. We talked about that. >> So that was an interesting thing. So it wasn’t compromised from so so what they did is they they supplanted the incentives from mining Monero directly with uh their own token called cubic token. So they would essentially give you more money to mine through them right and so they were able to control a certain amount of the hash rate for a certain period of time. Uh, and those details we can post them in the video description if you would like to learn more about what that there. Um, >> yeah, 51%s are whack, man. 51% tax. But apparently on Twitter, all the rage going around is that two mining pools have over 51% of um the mining pool activate. There we go. >> Yeah. >> So, um I don’t know, but I thought 51% attack was just a probability thing. Like, yeah, if you have 51% attack, there’s still it’s still very expensive to actually make a change or actually do anything that’s harmful. So, it’s like, but just the fact that there’s 51% and above is like queasy. Makes you feel >> I I I What was your question? What was the thing that you >> No, I was just saying like as I recall like a 51% attack isn’t instantaneous. It’s not like oh party’s over 51% attack. It just means there’s an increasing probability that they can with the chain, but it’s still going to be expensive for them to both coordinate and physically with the chain. Yeah, there’s there’s published uh like reports on like in real time economic uh costs of coordinating a 51% for a certain duration of time and each blockchain that’s running on proof of work has a certain uh like block cadence and depending on how many blocks you are essentially mining like the nons of you can you can do a you can basically make everybody else participating in in mining you can invalidate Right. So if you mine like 20 subsequent blocks, >> you basically uh orphan everybody else at some point when you push that. >> So >> it can be crippling in many ways >> which was trying to like obviously you know you posted I think you posted it in in in our community you said uh hey uh you know privacy is under attack and it showed Monero is under attack. Obviously the regulations because of uh what the tornado cash guy right he he was found guilty I think right >> Roman storm >> so I don’t know man privacy’s not winning a lot of battles lately >> well I think yeah there were a few there there were three counts and he was found guilty on oh god >> dude I he didn’t get the moneyaundering one but he’s found guilty on money >> no >> the one that people didn’t want them to be found guilty of. >> Transmission, right? Was it transmission? I can’t remember. >> I can’t recall, but I know the judge said something online basically like you knew what you were building and >> I’ll pull it up. I’ll pull it up so we don’t butcher the details. >> Tool for criminality, my guy. >> You built a tool for criminality. >> Yeah, that’s some >> No, this is something that we should get right. Hold on. >> I mean, we can get all quer if we get it wrong. People are going to say like, “Oh, you guys suck. This is the real news.” And we’re going to be like, “Thanks for the engagement points. Thanks for the engagement.” No, I’m kidding. Even though I know some people that >> Can you imagine being purposefully an a butthole so people just engaged with you and you got internet points? >> There’s a guy who does that. >> There’s a lot of people that do that. It’s like, terrible person. Yeah. So, uh they found him guilty of operating an unlicensed crypto business but cleared him of sanctions violations. So, >> yeah. >> Yeah. But precedents were set. >> Preced. >> Yeah. Overall, it’s not it’s not it’s not good because if you’re writing if you’re writing code that should be free speech and regardless of who uses your you know tools like it’s um you shouldn’t be shouldn’t be held liable for that. Um yeah tools are neutral. >> Do you ever talk with your hand? >> What? Yeah. Don’t you remember when you were over? Talked with my hands pretty pretty well. >> I feel like you just talk with your chest. >> Okay. >> Very buff man. Jesse’s a buff man. But like how would you use that? >> Oh, Wyoming. Wyoming launched its first stable coin. It uh was the first state in the US to launch its own stable coin. That’s also another pretty uh pretty big piece of news. Wonder how that’ll work. >> That goes back to like Civil War era when each each state was issuing their own currency. >> Dug back into history that far, but that definitely happened. >> Things are going full circle. You know what? Some of those red states that are crazy crazy in debt to the blue states should launch their own tokens to see if they can make up that deficit a little bit. >> Dude, I have this craziest conspiracy. You want you you want >> How do you say conspiracy with your hands? >> This I’m doing this this >> simple one. I have a crazy conspiracy. What if the US government shorts the out of crypto and tanks it to pay off the deficit? >> I mean, it’s a good it’s a good what if, man. >> Just evaporates the entire, you know, market cap of crypto through Black Rockck and Fidelity and Vanguard. >> Smash it easily. It it would be it would be like a week long endeavor and people would be like, whoa, crypto just got zapped. I I wonder like I that’s the thing about traditional finance. I feel like there’s there’s black magic in there that I don’t know what sort of that they can do from a legal standpoint and enforce it. Uh because you you know how like gold repatriation happened, right? >> Mhm. >> And they’re probably not going to repatriate crypto because like they would that would require them going, you know, doortodoor to everybody. I guess >> that’s kind of ridiculous. It’s uh doesn’t scale well, but like if you just short the value of crypto, like I wonder if people would dump. >> It’s not >> and then they buy it back and then they pump it back up. >> Yeah. It’s I think it’s about having a such a significant portion held in these centralized bodies, right? And that’s what scares me is that like >> Well, you saw that they’re no longer going to be a creating a Bitcoin reserve. You saw that, right? >> They were like psyched. Yeah, >> I did see that. >> Yeah, >> which everyone should have saw coming. We know who we’re dealing with here. But it’s just like so one, I honestly feel like the game theoretics of crypto will outlast governments and nation states trying to mess with it. >> I think so, too. >> Just because >> my conspiracy was just fun to say. Yeah. The thing is is that the the US alone isn’t if if like let’s let’s talk about how much Russia owns and China owns that they’re not talking about and the UK and all these countries own that they’re not talking if there’s enough distribution of ownership global globally then I don’t think one nation state can take it. I don’t think one nation state has enough money in the coffers to tank it. I think that >> I think it I think it’s a fun to think about but >> I don’t know now >> I’ve got some other con you heard my conspiracy theory on tether I feel like the US body block tether but I I feel like >> wait what no way wait I spill the entire >> I think the US regulate tether out of existence and put USDC as the top stable coin And then they’re just going to like slowly but surely create this mode of regulation around when and where stable coins can be used and how that if you short Tether with like a thousand bucks right now, short it to like 90 cents, it’ll be one of those once in a-lifetime hits >> where you’re like short it with like a,000 bucks and 100x leverage and then see if you know see if I’m right in 10 years because Tether is like dangerous to the USDC. See, >> you know what I think? I think Tether is operated by US intelligence. I think they let it happen. >> Oh, this is good episode. What do we got? >> Uh, Jesse and D pretend to be what’s the guy who does conspiracies? >> Uh, Boomhower from No, no, no. Dale from King of the Hill. >> What the hell? >> Dale from King of the Hill. You know the guy with the glasses and >> No, I was talking about the guy who has a podcast who does conspiracy theories. >> He’s like they put Okay. >> goat hair in CocaCola. Hank, I’m telling you, >> they do it to they do it to uh suppress our emotions. >> You watch King of the Hill? >> I love that show, dude. It’s so wholesome and funny and just like >> I I’ve watched a few episodes. It’s funny, but I never I never uh watched a lot of it. You vibe with dadding. Like you you should watch. >> I do. I do. I probably like maybe if I watched it now, I would probably be like, “Yeah, this is good.” >> It’s a dad show. The latest episode. >> You know what I Yeah. Sorry. I Sorry. >> No, no, go for it. I was going to do >> spoiler. >> I’ve been watching Mom, the TV show Mom. Mom >> on Netflix. >> What’s that one? It’s about uh it’s about a single mom who is raising two children trying to break the cycle of teenage pregnancy and she has a daughter who uh in I guess spoiler her daughter got pregnant. Uh so it’s not going so well in terms of breaking the cycle but it’s kind of like a slice of life drama but sometimes comedy most often comedy show. It’s it’s it’s uh it’s interesting cuz the >> are this is a show you with now? Like you just >> I guess I guess I don’t know, dude. Like I put it on when I was eating like a sandwich and I was like >> interesting. This is like I it had me audibly laughing >> and then Christina watched it and >> she also started laughing. >> Like you pushed okay on the remote to press play and start. >> I did. I did and I was like, “Huh?” Interesting. >> I need a rundown of this. So, you’re eating a sandwich and Christina >> is uh >> No, Christina wasn’t there. I binged like the first season by myself. >> Oh, now you’re bringing her in the party. You’re like, “Oh, this is this was such a good show. >> We’ll watch I’ll watch season one with you.” >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then we’ll watch season two together. >> Yeah. And like >> Yeah. Yeah. It’s surprisingly, >> you know, though, >> maybe I just have basic tastes in TV shows right now at this point, >> but it’s kind of funny to me. >> I think that’s the power of why you’re willing to pay 27 a month for Netflix, but watch like one show a year. >> That's the power of it is it's like that when you find that one show, you're like, "Yeah, this is great." And like you just like >> roll with it. Like there's no way on paper for me to justify the amount I pay for streaming services per month. But that one show like right now for Hulu it's like Alien Earth. I'm all over it. >> What is that about? >> It's like the Aliens franchise but like it it's it's before the it's sorry it's right after the first Alien and this like spaceship with Earth crashing to Earth with aliens on it. Mhm. >> It's the story that's >> Is this like are they are they like caveman mode or are we postindustrial? >> Hell futuristic. It's hella futuristic because you got to think if we're if we're mining planets for resources, you know, >> humans are mining planets or are aliens. >> The first Alien movie. Okay, that was like a mining. >> It's been It's been too long since I've seen the first Alien movie, so I forgot. I don't rewatch them. >> I used I used to read alien books as a te. I was that weird kid in class with alien and predator novels >> like reading them like Twilight books and in the in my high school classes. But yeah, anyways, a lot of going on in the alien universe. But >> anyways, we were talking about crypto, right? We were making these crazy conspiracy theories. Yeah, >> it's like >> when I see something like Wyoming making a stable coin, all I can think about is like they are we are literally all those other tangential stuff going on with crypto >> is is cool exercises, but as soon as them something becomes valuable enough, the traditional markets are going to just peel it away. they're just going to peel it away and use it for themselves. Like >> I saw something recently that like somebody was telling me because I was I was having a discussion with somebody who works for a government contractor >> and I was like yeah the government you always leads commercial always leads the public and and he was like not anymore. And I was like what do you mean? And he was like, "Yeah, like the the days of like government agencies like NASA innovating and creating something that then gets shared with the PO, those are over. Now open source and the public is leading governments." And I was like, "Damn, that's crazy." >> Uh, it's not that's not that's not quite true for all sectors. That may be true for certain sectors, >> but you know, he he gave me some examples and I was like, damn. So, like what if crypto is just like, you know, they let the nerds play around and make stuff and then when something actually looks like it has teeth, they just just suck the life out of it and just it becomes a middleman. >> It's a good strategy. >> Yeah. >> I just feel like >> I would like to hear those examples. What What were the examples he gave? >> Uh I was actually kind of drunk so I don't really remember the examples. I'm just trying to make a story here >> for podcast. But >> um >> uh which reminds me this is a good time personal service announcing everybody um don't don't drink a lot. Drink enough, right? Like >> or don't drink at all. That's also an option. >> Yeah. you I mean hey these these aren't my words like the this is Teddy Roosevelt saying this not me you know Teddy Roosevelt speak softly >> president >> speak softly have a big old dick that Teddy Roosevelt he said >> I don't trust a man that doesn't drink and you know >> you know funnily enough most Eastern European also have that same motto. Like you have to get sloppy drunk so that they understand the depth of which you are a genuine person because they know >> that when you get drunk, sloppy drunk, the truth comes out in terms of who you really are. And if you do that over a long period of time, you'll definitely, you know, you'll definitely expose who you truly are. >> That is very true. Now, I don't want to offend any Eastern Europeans listening, but uh I read some history books. >> There's a lot of crazy happening out there in Eastern Europe. So, >> shout shout out to all the all my Eastern European friends. >> I'm going just leave it at that. Y'all know more about this because you living in it, but I just read about it in the books. That's all. Um yeah, shout out to Eastern Europe. all of it. Uh, let's see what else is going on crazy in the crypto world. You know, I do >> Are you actually paying attention? Are you paying attention to crypto stuff while you like >> I'm trying I'm trying as hard as I can. I'm reading headlines and stuff on the weekends and stuff >> because it still blew my mind that you didn't know about a like when we met up in Las Vegas. >> I wouldn't say didn't know about A. I would say more so didn't know what it was. Like I knew It's even worse though >> thing but I didn't know like how it worked right as it's like its own chain is it like I was always like oh okay because I don't I don't after taking some risks in crypto >> you take less risks like when you >> LP work >> yeah like that was that was an unnecessary risk I wanted to take to exp >> and it was like oh yeah I should have just kept my Ethereum it would have been better >> well there's there's nuance there you can LP but just LP wisely first. Be the first >> be the first person to LP in that pool and have a good size of it and you'll probably do pretty well. >> Um, but we got a message in in our community. >> What? What do you mean? >> I don't know. Discord. >> Somebody's talking to us. You mean Oh, that's the AI answer my Excel question from earlier. And like I I told him I I was trying to do ifs, but when I was doing ifs, it was still only returning the first lookup. Anyway, sorry, we're not going to have an Excel conversation on on a podcast. Okay, you have to sequence and index your non-unique entries and then you can reference it that way. >> Yeah, but first I have to make them non-unique by concatenating. >> You don't have to make them non-unique, do you? >> I have to make them non-unique because right now there's merged there's merged headers and you can't look up a merged header. You have to it has to be straight one to one. >> So I'm going to have to concatenate to create unique headers and then do my lookups which shouldn't be long. Shouldn't take me long at all. And for the audience, concatenate means put together two string data. >> No, you can you can concatenate anything. Depends on how lowle >> Well, I mean text programming language is you can do break. You can do that just doesn't make any sense. >> If you're thinking of the word concatenate, yeah, you could put anything. >> Oh, okay. I you're Yeah. >> But in Excel, >> concatenate is for string or number. >> Gotcha. >> Yeah. But anyways, enough about that. Um trying to think of anything else happening crypto that is like worth talking to. I do know that my prediction again looking at everybody who the audience like there my prediction that it takes a very long time to codify this entrenched money to move is very true. A little birdie has told me from a friend that I that work closely with or work with that her or his massive advisory financial advisory firmlife insurance firm has been given the green light to start educating all of their clients on how to add port how to add crypto to their port their their retirement portfolios. So I knew there was a you know at the beginning of the year I made this comment in Discord. we can go back to it. And I was like, guys, this is a big thing for crypto, but do understand it's going to take a very long time because it takes a very long time for these organizations to mobilize and move. They got to educate themselves. They got >> There's some statistics I saw like less than 1% of money managers or fund managers have like less than like 3% of crypto exposure like not no more than 3%. So, it's like very very tiny. adoption is the only thing that matters. >> Well, no. Also, having a president that would just yolo sign bills that say, "Yeah, you can collateralize your house in crypto now." Like, >> yolo. Yeah. Uh oh. Did I lose you? Are you lost? Hello? Did I lose you? >> Yeah, I'm I'm Yeah, you lost me for a bit. Oh, okay. >> And then I'm back. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. This this president is yoloing in lots of ways at once. It's kind of hard to keep up with and very depressing sometimes. But anyways, um I don't want to go down that path. The >> Hello Darkness, my old friend again. Um, but yeah, like you know, it's starting to look up for crypto in lots of ways. It's starting to look weird for crypto in lots of ways, but adoption is the only thing that matters. So, I will say for the first time, my uncles are hitting me up about crypto advice, which used to be my aunties, but they don't talk to me about it anymore. They just they don't. Now, it's my uncles. >> I had an uncle that asked me about some some crypto stuff. That was like last year or the year before. Yeah. >> Did you tell him like I don't know what you're talking about? >> I know. I I I I was like I explained to him with adequate detail that these are what the things he needs to understand and he was like I don't understand any of this. So, uh, at that point, uh, I said, "Okay." And that was the conversation. >> Yeah. Sometimes you can give people the information that they want and then they don't know what to do with it because they're not motivated enough to dig into it. And then it's just like, "Okay, >> that's where it ends." >> I know the saying you're talking about. You're saying, "If you take a horse to water, you can't make it drink." >> No, no, no. He came to me to drink. I gave him the water. He couldn't figure out how to drink it. I gave him the most water. Yeah, >> maybe you gave him too much water. >> I think he drowned. >> Yeah, he came to me wanting a sip and I waterboarded him and then he said, "I don't want any more of that water. Actually, I think I'm okay." No, like uh I just don't understand that saying because like if you if you tie the horse up next to the lake, it's going to start drinking water eventually. >> Yeah. Eventually you get thirsty. Yeah. >> Yeah. So that's the saying. That's how you beat the saying is like you you lock someone in a room and you just give them crypto knowledge until they buy. >> That's been this entirety of my existence on the podcast. Forced forced learning through osmosis. And then at some point I just kind of did it on my own. >> We locked Jesse in the room and we repeated our podcast on loop to him until we came crypto supernut. That's how we do it. Grapes are delicious blessings from above. I think anyway sorry I got distracted there. Um, the last thing I want to talk about is these growing articles that a Harvard scientist saw a spaceship enter our solar system. >> Oh yeah, that one. I don't know about that one. >> But what if I don't know about that? >> I need them to land in Israel right now today. I need them to >> What are they going to do? >> They just need to land on the Gaza Strip and say like, "Hey guys, >> Jesus isn't real. >> The plot changed. That's all. God isn't real. What if they just like God isn't real and then >> that would be crazy. That would be >> we made God up. What if they did that and they showed like a trail of evidence >> that prove that? >> If that's like a Rick and Morty. >> Yeah. >> I'll be like, "Oh >> I think I know what I would do. >> What? What would you >> I would go to the church that I grew up with and ask for a refund >> for the tithing. >> Yeah. >> Okay, got it. I don't think they do that. I think that money is long gone to the pastors. >> I wrote my name >> and the date. I wrote my name and the date. They know it was me. >> That paid for like a drop of jet fuel that goes into that private jet. I would say, hey, you know, get upon hearing the current state of the state of the news of the universe, I feel it is um well with within my rights as a constituent of your church to please ask for a refund. Um we don't have to worry about interest. I just want the principal back and we're fine. Mhm. >> That's how I would approach that conversation, I think. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. I don't think I don't think that would work >> cuz if you wrote it off on your taxes, like then that means you could Could you ask the government for the tax money back too? Or like the Wait, no, that wouldn't work. They want the tax money to you. >> People do that. Catholics who give like 20% tithing. Like isn't it like 10 to 20% something like that in that range? >> Wow. >> That's a lot of money. >> That's like another tax. >> That's a lot of money. >> Yeah. That's the thing about cryptos is such baby money compared to the money that's really out there. It's like what are we doing here? Like I mean it's a big deal. So I mean yeah, you know it's not really real. I mean, sometimes it feels really real. >> Feels real when you're poor and then when you're rich or you're like, you know, middle class and it's just like the standard of living is probably equalized. Unless you have like a super yacht, you know, and you're like Jeff Bezos, >> you're like a super yacht. I know for a fact I know what I'd want. I >> I don't want a super yacht. Who the f Why would I want a super yacht? I don't even on a boat >> to make money off of it. >> No, you just imag No, I don't need money. If I'm rich, why would you need more money? >> They rent the yacht out. >> If if you have money, why do you need more money? >> Dude, that's like saying if you have ice cream in the freeze freezer, why buy more? Like, what kind of >> You buy more ice cream when you have ice cream in the freezer? >> Yeah. Like there's at least two ice cream options in my freezer at all times. Like because some some days I might want some dark, some days I might want some light. You know what I'm saying? Like you're talking to somebody who lost 20 pounds since January by removing all the ice cream in my freezer. >> You're talking to somebody who lost 25 pounds by working his ass off on the road, >> right? with ice cream in your freezers wherever. >> When I get home, >> there's ice cream being eaten, my friend. >> And I have option. That's all I'm going to say. I don't understand that question. It's like, okay, here's something that hits home that we've talked about on the show many times. Do you need more Counterstrike skins? You have them already. >> No, I don't need anymore. >> Okay, bad example. Do you need to be stronger? You're already strong. >> That's not true because there is a limit in which your body starts breaking. And I touched that. I want to touch it again. It's like the stove was hot, but maybe you can touch it a little bit longer than the last time you touched it. And that's the ugabooga in men that does things like, "Hey, I wonder how hard you could punch this punching bag." "Oh, let me see if I can get a higher number than you." That type of mentality is is that that's the same thing. It's very dumb, but you got to have like at least one or two of those hobbies in your life. >> All right. So then owning a super yacht is dumb. Go for it. Nobody's stopping you. Just not my job. >> I want to own a super duper yacht. How about that? >> Go for it. >> I want to own things to the point where I could name them like Street Fighter named all those video games back in the 90s. Like Street Ultra Yacht, >> Hyper Tournament Yacht, >> Ultra Hyper Yacht, like just which by the way, like to this day, that's They were selling the same exact game with like different character costumes. Damn, they do the same thing to this day. >> What about moves? The moves change. >> Not really. >> The inputs change. >> Not from sup Not from Ultra Street Fighter to like mega hyper. They were the same. You just got different costumes. >> What do you mean ultra to mega hyper? Okay, they're on Street Fighter 5 right now. Let's be accurate. Right. Right. >> No, this is like Street Fighter 27 if you look at it all put together. No, we're we're we're pretending those other Street Fighters don't exist right now. So, Street Fighter 5, >> separate universe, separate universe. >> Okay. >> So, Street Fighter 5. >> How many Street? >> It feels different. I played the OG Street Fighter and then I played Street Fighter 5 completely different, not just reskinned. >> All right, I'm going to roll it off to you. There were seven. Street Fighter 2, Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition, Street Fighter 2 Hyper Fighting, Street Fighter 2 the new challengers, Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Street Fighter 2 the anniversary edition, Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD, Street Fighter 2 the final challengers. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight Street Fighter 2s. H. So by that naming convention, there needs to be Super Yacht, Super Duper Yacht, Super Yacht, the New Yacht, Super Turbo Yacht. >> Speaking of yacht, >> Turbo Yacht HD. Go on. Yes. Yes. Now you're uh you made a you made a Counterstrike reference. Gabe Newell, who owns Valve, >> which makes Steam, the distribution for games on PC largely. >> Uh he bought a 300 million super yacht. Why? To put 60 to 70 researchers to go around in the ocean. >> No, that’s a sex boat. That’s a sex boat, dude. That’s People like Gabe New have to do stuff like that to get regular booty. >> I can’t >> believe it. >> Imagine that to be true, but okay. >> Dude, come on. Look at him, bro. Look at Look at him. >> He’s Gabe Newell. Like, if if you were a nerdy person, you’d be like, “Oh, yeah. It’s Gabe Newell.” Gabe, >> that’s a sex boat, bro. The implication is there. I feel like he doesn’t need to buy a yacht. If you were a nerdy chick, it’d be fine. >> Dude, people with that much money don’t need to do half the that they do. They just do it, though. >> I think that’s what it is. I think they just do it because they can do it, not because they have to. >> You know what I really want to know is what’s going on in that what is it? 5 billion sex dungeon that Zuckerberg's building down Hawaii. >> Yeah, I saw that. That's interesting. >> Sex dungeon, bro. Without a doubt. >> That sex dungeon? No, that's like end of the world doomsday type No, >> Jesse. >> No. >> Imagine yourself parallel universe. You're worth 250 billion. Where are you going to put your sex dungeon, bro? >> I don’t want a sex dungeon. >> I have no, >> dude. I live in a sex dungeon. Like, >> we could tell by the lighting. That’s what I’m really trying to figure out here. >> Exactly. You don’t need it when you live in it. >> That’s a That’s actually a pretty good comeback. I’m not going to lie. I live in a sex dungeon. Okay. I don’t need a sex dungeon elsewhere. Damn. Shout out to Jesse on that one. That was um Yeah. So, here’s the deal, audience. If you stay this long, we don’t do crypto shows like other people do crypto shows. We do it like we do crypto shows. And I believe that’s what put us on any kind of remnants of a map those many moons ago. We’ve tried to adapt and to be like those guys that dye their hair and flip it up and talk about crypto really fast and make you think you’re buying things that make you rich. We’ve tried to get well. >> Do that. >> You could do that. >> Dye my hair. No, I never I never I I I I never once wanted to be a sellout and I don’t think I ever did. >> But what we’re going to start doing is just getting good oldfashioned TVP energy back in the room. We’re talking about >> Is that a chocolate? No, it’s a grape. >> It’s a grape. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> We’re gonna Oh, this grape has a butt. >> Is that a butt or is that infected? >> Uh I think it’s a butt. I think it’s it’s I think it’s an ineffective. But >> you know, it’s funny for this podcast to get real meta. Like I think we just we knew that we don’t have a lot of time. Like we all work uh full-time jobs and we work more than 40 hours. We do a lot. Uh we’ve always done a lot outside of the podcast. Uh at one point, yeah, we had some extra money and we ramped up production quality, but then we realized like uh it became more detached from who we are as people. like we didn’t really bring our personalities into it. We kind of >> talked about crypto in a way that was Yeah. Well, it’s not even became a job. It’s just we talked about crypto in a way that at least wasn’t so similar to the conversations we have when we’re not trying to record a podcast to try to make it appeal to the general public, right? So like general public podcasts about crypto are like here’s the price, buy this shitcoin, become rich, like we I mean I’m generally not into that for various different reasons. I enjoy the tech. I speak about the tech. Uh this hour of my life that I dedicate, you know, I I’ve always dedicated since like 2017 to recording this podcast has always been about uh joining D, joining Corey, learning a little bit about the news, maybe learning a few things here and there that I didn’t know. Very topical. Most of the deep dives usually happened on my own personal time. And that’s really really what you should take away from this. like we’ll give you some glimpses about what’s happening in the industry of course and some episodes will have more or uh you know this one is particularly less but some episodes will have more well ststructured content doing a little bit more deep dives with wellprepared interviews. This just happens to be one of those podcasts where we’re just showing up just to keep the cadence going, just to give give you, you know, kind of content that you might enjoy that isn’t particularly attached to the euphoria that crypto generally tries to um make a mainstay with the gambling aspects. So, yeah. >> Yep. And we’re going to be exploring way more things because that’s what we do. We explore. We’re constantly learning. were constantly curious. I right now have this vein striking through my brain where I need to figure out where all these billionaires are building their sex dungeons and how they’re going to operate. Right? So, we’re going to see that on the next episode. I mean, let’s think about it. G Bill Gates has had a sex dungeons for 30 years now. Where are they? How do they operate? How do you get into them? Right? So, we’ll talk about that a little bit and how crypto could be involved maybe at the point of sale. Um, we’ll talk about Jesse’s sex dungeon if there’s a point of sale at it or not. Um, Corey has one as well. So, um, yeah, we’re just going to talk about things that we’re interested in. So, yep. So, yeah. So, uh, things you can look forward to is us shooting about crypto like we used to. So, >> would you get drunk on a podcast again? >> Oh, yeah, of course. But not to the point where I would like, you know, sacrifice my livelihood, but I would definitely have a couple drinks and have conversation let loose. >> Okay. >> You want to do it right now tonight? It’s a Tuesday, but >> No, no, no. I I have work to do. Like >> you don’t drink. I know that for a fact. >> I I I try not to. >> You drink sit very situationally and the situation list is very small. >> I used to drink like I’ll put it this way. When when I went to my first security conference with Corey, I drank so much. I never drank more in my life. But I realized my liver should not take that much alcohol. So I stopped. >> And ever since then, I’ve been trying not to drink so much. And I cut out alcohol completely because I went on a health kick cuz uh my health was not going in the right direction after throwing myself at a pretend startup for years. >> Do you feel better now? Pressure’s off your shoulders? No, I have real pressure now. I’m really in a startup now. So, it’s completely different. I’m not laring anymore. >> Dude, you are They’re going to write a story about you one day. They’re going to put it in a book. >> I don’t want to be in a book. >> They’re going to put it online in a PDF. >> I I don’t need that. >> Well, look, it’s obviously getting pretty late where we’re recording. and how we’re recording. So, we’re not going to take up too much of you guys’ time. We hope you tune in to the next episode. This is TBP season 2 episode. Don’t know yet. We’re going to edit it and then probably figure that part out. Uh, we did forget to play the intro, so we’re just going to go ahead and play it right now. >> It’s a Bitcoin podcast. the only one that’s making your money. You listen to the coin market. So hold on to the Bitcoin. >> Yeah, I love that intro. >> It’s so good. It’s so good. >> You know, I I used I look so bad. I look so disheveled and like a homeless person in that that intro. >> Yeah, dude. I look like I look like I look like Miyag Mr. Miyagi had sex with Keanu Reeves and like was advanced age balding. >> I don’t agree with that at all. I actually feel like you look like someone who excels in owning and operating a sex dungeon. >> I had to do it. I had to do it. >> You got me. You got me. >> No, I think you look like John Wick. I think you look like more Asian John Wick. >> You do have Keanu vibes. I’m not going to lie to you. Sometimes you have Well, no, because Keano was a I think he’s a person who understands where he is and he knows like I play dumb people because deep down I connect with being dumb. And he’s okay with that. He’s like, I don’t care. >> What? >> No. Have you heard him in interviews? Like he’s just like, “Listen, listen. I’m at a point in my life where I will never argue with anybody. Like if they think 2 plus two equals 5, I’ll tell them they’re right. I don’t care. I I’m not in any kind of I never want to. It’s like intelligence is so far off of his radar. He’s just vibing. Like he’s just life vibing. Like he doesn’t care about anything.” >> What about Jason Mimoa? Is that like similar vibes? He’s just like >> I think he’s he’s just vibing, dude. He’s just like, he’s like, “Hey, >> like I’m >> I got kids. I got a wife. I’m doing my thing. I’m having fun.” >> He doesn’t have a wife anymore. He divorced. >> Yeah, that’s right. She was way older than him, though. So now his options up. >> Yeah. >> His options opened up. I’m not going to lie. But you know, he just seems one of those people. He’s like, I’m just vibing, man. Obviously, I’m doing something right because people pay me millions of dollars to talk. So So anyways, we’ve done enough vibing for one episode. Corey will hopefully join us um one day >> when he’s not rolling with other men >> on the ground. >> He likes to get sweaty with dudes and grab on them. >> Mhm. >> I didn’t say anything. >> What is his What is his sex dungeon? What is that going to look like? >> Oh jeez. There’s gonna be rubber padding everywhere. >> I hope Cory watches this episode. He’ll probably never watch it, but one day. >> Yeah, he likes to make men submit. >> End the recording software. Why won’t you end